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03/22/2007 01:30 PM House TRANSPORTATION


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01:35:22 PM Confirmation Hearing: Leo Von Scheben
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                         March 22, 2007                                                                                         
                           1:34 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Kyle Johansen, Chair                                                                                            
 Representative Mark Neuman, Vice Chair                                                                                         
 Representative Anna Fairclough                                                                                                 
 Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                   
 Representative Vic Kohring                                                                                                     
 Representative Mike Doogan                                                                                                     
 Representative Woodie Salmon                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATE TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Albert Kookesh, Chair                                                                                                  
 Senator John Cowdery, Vice Chair                                                                                               
 Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                            
 Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                      
 Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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Confirmation Hearing: Leo von Scheben for the Department of                                                                     
Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
Leo von Scheben, Commissioner designee                                                                                          
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                              
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Available for questions                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KYLE  JOHANSEN called  the joint meeting  of the  House and                                                             
Senate  Transportation Standing  Committees to  order at  1:34:44                                                             
PM. Present  at the  call to  order were  Representatives Neuman,                                                             
Fairclough,   Johnson,  Kohring,   Salmon,   Doogan,  and   Chair                                                               
Johansen, and Senators Cowdery,  Olson, Wielechowski, Wilken, and                                                               
Chair Kookesh.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
             ^CONFIRMATION HEARING: LEO VON SCHEBEN                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:35:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEO  VON SCHEBEN,  Commissioner  designee for  the Department  of                                                               
Transportation and Public Facilities  (DOTPF), related his school                                                               
and work  history, including his  history as founder of  the USKH                                                               
architectural and  engineering firm  in Anchorage,  and explained                                                               
how  his  private sector  experience  will  be helpful  with  the                                                               
challenges  facing  the  DOTPF  at  this  moment.  He  said  that                                                               
Governor   Palin   nominated  him   based   on   his  skills   in                                                               
communication, honestly, and budget and scheduling.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He  then  further explained  his  relationship  with USKH,  which                                                               
provides architectural  and land  surveying services;  he retired                                                               
from the company in 2004. The company  does a lot of work for the                                                               
state of  Alaska, the US  government, and  various municipalities                                                               
in  the private  sector. He  will recuse  himself from  any DOTPF                                                               
matters  involving USKH  so as  to avoid  a conflict  of interest                                                               
with  his past  work  experience. He  considers  himself a  data-                                                               
driven manager,  and his business philosophy  focuses on customer                                                               
satisfaction,  employee  satisfaction,  quality of  product,  and                                                               
money management.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that his vision for  the DOTPF is to  see efficient                                                               
planning, designing,  and construction of the  projects that meet                                                               
the needs of Alaska's economy and  its people. He agrees with the                                                               
mission  statement of  the DOTPF,  which  is to  provide for  the                                                               
movement of people, goods, and state services.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:41:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He said that he wants to  involve the private sector model in the                                                               
DOTPF,  using  consultants to  fine-tune  the  state system,  and                                                               
working with  the marine  and aviation  advisory boards.  He also                                                               
wants to work  on building roads, highways,  ports, and airports.                                                               
Also, the infrastructure  of the future gas pipeline  needs to be                                                               
examined, and  architects, engineers,  and surveyors AES  need to                                                               
be hired to make up for staff retiring and leaving the DOTPF.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He  said that  in the  interest  of communications,  a series  of                                                               
DOTPF  meetings  should  be  held   throughout  the  state.  He's                                                               
particularly  excited about  the  Alaska Railroad,  and he  looks                                                               
forward to a  fresh look at the Marine Highway  System; the aging                                                               
infrastructure  needs  to  be  examined,   and  he  is  currently                                                               
preparing a  plan to present  to the governor. Also,  many public                                                               
facilities across the state are aging and need to be replaced.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  also plans  on looking  for ways  to move  away from  federal                                                               
funding  dependency, and  will be  working with  the governor  on                                                               
this.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:45:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if there  will be any need to reassess                                                               
any  major DOTPF  projects,  like the  Knik  Arm Bridge,  Gravina                                                               
Bridge,  or the  Juneau  access road,  due to  a  future lack  of                                                               
federal funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON  SHEBEN said that the  Gravina Bridge cost is  very high,                                                               
and he  doesn't see available  funding coming any time  soon. The                                                               
Knik Bridge  has a private/public  partnership in place  that may                                                               
ultimately be able to provide  financing. The Juneau road project                                                               
is  tied to  the Marine  Highway System,  so at  this time  there                                                               
won't be re-prioritization for that project.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  commented that the administration  issued a                                                               
contract for a  gravel road for the Gravina  project in December,                                                               
and asked if that project will be completed.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON SCHEBEN replied that the  money for the road is earmarked                                                               
so it  will be funded no  matter what. The road  job is supported                                                               
by the  people of Ketchikan  and opens up  new areas of  land for                                                               
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said that there's a  geotechnical study out                                                               
that shows a significant underestimate  of the cost of the Juneau                                                               
road project, and asked for Mr. von Scheben's comments.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON  SCHEBEN said  that he's unfamiliar  with that  study but                                                               
he'll look into it.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHANSEN asked that if  Mr. von Scheben is comfortable with                                                               
the fiscal estimate for the project.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON  SCHEBEN said that  he is comfortable with  the estimate,                                                               
but he doesn't know where the funds will come from.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:49:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  thanked Mr.  von Scheben  for his  willingness to                                                               
serve the state, and asked about  the lack of design engineers in                                                               
the public sector.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON  SCHEBEN said that  the matter is  a war for  talent, and                                                               
that engineers  just aren't  as available  as before;  new talent                                                               
from  outside  of  state  is   needed.  The  DOTPF  could  become                                                               
something of  a training  ground for  future engineers  who might                                                               
leave the department, and hopefully some will end up staying.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN   commented  that  some  people   are  afraid  of                                                               
privatization influence in  the DOTPF and others  welcome it, and                                                               
he asked for Mr. von Scheben's comments.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON  SCHEBEN restated his  work philosophy, and said  that he                                                               
wants  to see  good money  management and  efficiency, which  may                                                               
involve help from the private sector.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN commented  that there's  a lot  of rural  airport                                                               
projects coming  up this year, and  he asked for thoughts  on how                                                               
these should be  funded and where the state is  in the process of                                                               
remodeling the Anchorage airport.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON SCHEBEN said that the  remodel and the expansion of the A                                                               
and  B concourses  of the  Ted Stevens  International Airport  is                                                               
going well,  and the contractor  has been working with  the owner                                                               
to see how to best proceed;  hopefully there won't be a whole lot                                                               
of  surprises in  the project.  As for  rural airports,  they are                                                               
vital to people involved in  general aviation; they're expensive,                                                               
but they're very important for the people who need them.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:56:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said  that there will be lots  of fisherman headed                                                               
to Chitna  soon, and  asked for  the state  of the  O'Brian Creek                                                               
bridge.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VON SCHEBEN  replied  that the  rebuilding  project for  the                                                               
bridge,  lost to  a flood,  has  run into  difficulties with  the                                                               
local Native corporation.  Ideally a bridge and a  boat ramp will                                                               
both be built.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  commented that he'd  be willing to help  with the                                                               
negotiation process.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON SCHEBEN  replied that the DOTPF would  appreciate help in                                                               
working with the Native corporation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:58:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN commented  that he  hoped Mr.  von Scheben                                                               
would work  with the members  of the  legislature to form  a plan                                                               
for the  future of the  DOTPF. He said  that there are  no waste-                                                               
sites  along some  road in  Northern Alaska,  and said  that he's                                                               
been  working   with  soil   and  water   conservation  districts                                                               
regarding highway  cleanup. He then  asked how a program  for in-                                                               
house training for engineers in the DOTPF could be done.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON  SCHEBEN replied  that the  key to  this is  talking some                                                               
retirement-age DOTPF  staff into staying  on to train  and mentor                                                               
new younger staff.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:01:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN asked if Mr.  von Scheben would consider an                                                               
organized in-house training program for the DOT.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON SCHEBEN  replied that he would,  because young engineers,                                                               
architects, and surveyors need to learn from experience.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:01:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON  asked for  comment on the  person hired  to manage                                                               
the Alaska Marine Highway System (AMHS).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON SCHEBEN  said that Mr. Dennis  Hardy, Deputy Commissioner                                                               
for the  AMHS, is  a professional engineer  working for  the Army                                                               
Corps of  Engineers, who's coming  to work as a  technical rather                                                               
than marine expert. He has  extensive experience dealing with the                                                               
public, and no preconceived notions about the DOTPF system.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:04:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH asked for  comment on Mr. von Scheben's                                                               
management skills and  how he'll be communicating  with his staff                                                               
in so many different locations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON  SCHEBEN replied  that he has  experience working  with a                                                               
corporation of 3,500  employees, and he has  already visited with                                                               
many people  who he knows  from the  private sector. He  plans to                                                               
communicate every month with various  staff around the state, and                                                               
he thinks that  the right style is to lead  by example, and face-                                                               
to-face communication is best.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  asked for  comment on  recruitment and                                                               
retention of staff.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VON SCHEBEN  said that  recruitment will  be difficult,  but                                                               
exciting  work  will be  the  biggest  factor in  attracting  new                                                               
staff. Good salaries and benefits  are important, but interesting                                                               
and stimulating  jobs are  the most  important element.  When the                                                               
pipeline starts up it will be a strain on all sectors.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH said  that some  legislators represent                                                               
large  parts of  the  state  population, and  asked  how Mr.  von                                                               
Scheben sees his role in working with lots of different bodies.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON  SCHEBEN replied  that it  may be  difficult to  sort out                                                               
everyone who  he needs  to work with,  and that  communication is                                                               
important. Safety  and benefit to  the state are  his priorities,                                                               
and he's  confident that his  great staff and teamwork  will make                                                               
for effective work.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH said that she appreciated his answers.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:11:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  JOHANSEN  asked for  comment  on  shipping yards  and  dry                                                               
docking in his district.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VON SCHEBEN  explained how  he sits  on various  boards that                                                               
deal with  these issues, and  the subject  in question is  one of                                                               
the biggest  issues. He then  listed the various steps  that need                                                               
to be taken  to finish up with the shipyard  project, including a                                                               
memorandum of agreement will tie  up the relationship between the                                                               
Alaska Industrial  Development &  Export Authority  (AIDEA) board                                                               
and the DOTPF.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:13:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOOKESH asked  if the  lack  of a  marine background  will                                                               
hinder Mr. von Scheben's efforts in that sector.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON SCHEBEN replied that he's  going to try to understand the                                                               
system  by  going out  in  the  field,  and taking  into  account                                                               
people's different  needs; one doesn't  necessarily need to  be a                                                               
marine expert  to understand the  economical aspect of  the AMHS.                                                               
He  has a  southeast Alaska  transportation plan  that will  help                                                               
kick off efforts on the system.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOOKESH said  that riding the ferry doesn't  make anyone an                                                               
expert, and he  hopes Mr. von Scheben will make  more effort than                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He then asked what kind of  relationship Mr. von Scheben plans on                                                               
having with the Marine Advisory Board.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON  SCHEBEN said that  he hopes to  rely on elements  of the                                                               
private sector like the board.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI said  that he  hopes that  Mr. von  Scheben                                                               
will  consider the  effects of  working with  the private  sector                                                               
because there  have been such  projects that have ended  up being                                                               
extremely costly to the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VON SCHEBEN  replied  that  he won't  be  making bold  moves                                                               
without much  planning and a  good understanding of  any projects                                                               
in  question. He  then  related an  example  of improper  private                                                               
sector work.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOOKSEH asked what Mr.  von Scheben intends to change about                                                               
scheduling for the Marine Highway System.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:19:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VON  SCHEBEN  replied  that he  hasn't  thought  much  about                                                               
scheduling yet but that he will get back to the committee.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHANSEN asked  for comment on a situation  in Juneau where                                                               
money was spent on a project that hadn't been approved yet.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VON SCHEBEN  replied that  the  issue is  question was  poor                                                               
judgment, but  that it  was an  honest attempt  to save  money on                                                               
materials.  He  promised  that  he  would  never  repeat  such  a                                                               
situation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:21:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SALMON  said  that  the  previous  administration                                                               
tried to cut  down on maintenance funding  for Northern highways,                                                               
when it  should have been  increased. The  current administration                                                               
should not make the same mistake.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. VON SCHEBEN replied that he's  not familiar with the cuts but                                                               
he will inform himself on the issue.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SALMON commented  that he  hopes Mr.  von Scheben                                                               
will get back to him on the issue.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN said that he  hopes to see ships built by                                                               
the DOTPF in the coming years.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:23:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH   made  a  motion  to   move  Mr.  von                                                               
Scheben's  nomination forward  for recommendation  with unanimous                                                               
consent. There being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOOKESH  announced that the  committee would  be forwarding                                                               
the recommendation to a joint session for consideration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON made a motion  to move Mr. von Scheben's nomination                                                               
forward for  recommendation with  unanimous consent.  There being                                                               
no objection, the motion carried.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Johansen adjourned the meeting at 2:24:43 PM.                                                                           

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